[Focus] Coupang class action lawsuit: "Concealment of headquarters data is not possible... U.S. court can proceed with mandatory submission and restoration procedures"
U.S. class action lawsuit, Participants in one day 200number of people→1Over 1,000 people- Anyone who has placed an order can participate…In Korea, criminal proceedings are also carried out in parallel.- U.S. class action lawsuit ‘Opt out’ method…Even non-participants in the lawsuit can receive compensation- In the United States, punitive damages apply…It is difficult to predict the amount of compensation- ‘discovery’ Key data such as emails and meeting minutes will be secured through- Restoration when data is destroyed...Concealment or deletion can be punishable as obstruction of justice.- If there was insufficient investment in security compared to the number of members, the head office ignored security.- U.S. Court dismissal possible? Depends on the size of the litigants and the participation of multinational victims- Complaint filed, The goal is to raise it within the year, but it could happen sooner. ■ broadcast : MBC radio standardFM 95.9MHz <Kim Jong-bae's attention>(07:05~08:30)■ progress : Kim Jong-bae, current affairs critic■ talk : Kuk-il Kim, CEO of Daeryun Law Firm (Represented Coupang in a U.S. class action lawsuit) ☏ host > A lawsuit is underway in the U.S. regarding Coupang's large-scale personal information leak.. He held a press conference in New York yesterday and announced plans for a lawsuit.. I will connect you to the phone number of Kim Kuk-il, CEO of Daeryun Law Firm.. The representative is with me.? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > yes, hello. This is Kim Kuk-il.. ☏ host > First of all, the number of people who have announced that they will participate in the class action lawsuit is one. 200You said at a press conference yesterday that it would be around 10,000 people.. Has it increased more in the meantime?, How about? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > yes, I really feel the power of broadcasting.. There was even a press conference yesterday 200There were about 1,000 people already. 1There are now over 1,000 people.. ☏ host > is it so? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > yes. ☏ host > However, yesterday, during the press conference, the CEO ‘one 100Several people were even entrusted with the task of filing criminal charges and accusations.’ This is what I said. In addition to filing a claim for damages, will you also file a criminal complaint?? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > What we do in Korea is both civil and criminal.. I used to SKT When the information was leaked, it was divided into two fields: civil and criminal, but at that time, civil was the main field and criminal was only a small part.. However, at Coupang this time, I divided the civil and criminal categories, and contrary to what I expected, almost half of the people applied for the criminal category as well.. ☏ host > Then the detective work is carried out in Korea.? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > yes, yes. ☏ host > So, can any Coupang member participate in this litigation group?? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > yes, yes. Anyone who has ordered at least one item from Coupang can participate.. ☏ host > However, in the United States, there is a class action system, so even if you are not included in the group of litigants, if a judgment is made, isn't there a system where the judgment is applied equally?, Does this have anything to do with this this time?? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > Unless you waive a right you do not wish to have by opting out, you will receive compensation according to the judgment even if you were not the plaintiff.. ☏ host > Even in this lawsuit.? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > yes, yes. Only those who became plaintiffs, The amount of compensation varies slightly between those who are members and not the plaintiff.. ☏ host > There is some difference. But you are saying that you can receive compensation.. ☏ Kim Kuk-il > yes, yes. ☏ host > How much is the compensation claim amount currently being calculated?? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > You asked the most difficult question.. Class action class action lawsuits in the U.S. have punitive implications. In the case of Korea 1big1 It's called compensation.. All you have to do is prove what kind of damage there is and compensate for that damage.. ☏ host > That's right. ☏ Kim Kuk-il > However, punitive damages in the United States ‘punishment’There is a meaning. When damages are caused by intentionally, illegally, and anti-social corporate activities, not only compensation for the damages, but also compensation in the form of punitive retribution is required for the intentional or serious negligence that caused the damages.. At the same time, compensation is also added as a deterrent to prevent something like this from happening again in the future.. So we cannot predict how much compensation will be awarded in class actions.. What I want most since I got to do class action is to become an investigative agency in the United States., Didn’t I say that in Korea, I handle civil and criminal matters?? In the US, it's actually a class action civil service.. We can utilize the discovery system in class action civil affairs in the United States.. ☏ host > Are you talking about the system that forces submission of data?? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > That's right. It has the same meaning as detective work in Korea.. Emails or reporting materials exchanged between Coupang headquarters and Coupang Korea held by the headquarters, Meeting materials, Next, the decisions made by the Board of Directors at Coupang’s headquarters, We can secure this information through Discovery.. I expect that the contents will be more reliable than those revealed by investigative agencies through investigations in Korea, and that a large amount of unexpected contents will be revealed.. ☏ host > You mentioned it briefly a while ago, but the data you want to secure through Discovery is mainly data that can prove, for example, that the US headquarters was aware of lax security or how they responded after personal information was leaked., Would you say that the focus is on this aspect?? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > yes, yes. To give a simple example, although it is not completely confirmed, Chinese security agents, When the employee in charge of the authentication left the company, he took the authentication key with him and used it to steal member information over a long period of time.? Such lax security management, Is it true that headquarters didn’t know about information management?? I just did what I've always done about it., what investment, I believe that such matters, such as investing or making changes to a security level that meets global standards, were discussed within the board of directors and Coupang headquarters.. If it wasn't discussed at all, it means ignoring security.. ☏ host > If you compare it to a public service society, it would be considered dereliction of duty., then? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > yes, yes. Most of the members are citizens 5If there are 10 million people 3500It can be said that there are 10,000 members, but there are really only a few thousand people who are managed., If it has been managed with a security system that manages tens of thousands of people, can't it be seen as a system that deserves social criticism?? Coupang headquarters was also informed that an internal employee was stealing data knowing this, but they did not take action quickly., Also, the number of people was reduced further., Or, even though they knew that reporting would be reduced, they announced it to the outside world only with a small number of people., announced, We also want to secure whether there are any emails or other materials that convey this kind of information.. ☏ host > Considering the possibility that the data may have been destroyed or concealed, is this also possible to track and confirm?? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > yes. There is a technology that can restore it without deleting it all from the computer data anyway., And if you conceal or destroy such materials, you will be subject to appropriate punishment such as obstruction of justice.. ☏ host > Then, if you file a lawsuit, the Discovery you mentioned, Is it possible to trigger this right away and request submission of data right away?? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > However, Class Action is a, Even in Korea, where class actions were created due to these limitations, class actions are still only available individually and have not been officially introduced.? It's the same in America. This is a very, very special case and it is recognized as a multi-victim lawsuit, so the first thing that is accepted by the court is that it is recognized as a class action.. Since all the victims are in Korea, it only happens in Korea, so the U.S. courts have no jurisdiction over this., Even if you ask, we can't accept it., This is how the U.S. court can rule again. ☏ host > How much of a possibility do you think it is?? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > I think the odds depend on us continuing to collect victims.. ☏ host > Do you think it depends on the number of victims?, Do you think it depends on the size of the litigation team?? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > I hope that multinational victims come forward along with the scale.. ☏ host > In countries other than Korea? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > yes. In particular, aren’t there also Koreans in the U.S.?? There are quite a few people like this who are also members of Coupang in Korea.. When these people file a lawsuit together with Korean citizens, even in the U.S. court, this is not just a Korean problem.. ☏ host > That's right. ☏ Kim Kuk-il > Just looking at the manuscript makes it difficult to reject it.. This is important to us and that is why we held a press conference yesterday.. many people, In particular, we hope that many people in the United States will participate.. I held this press conference to appeal that.. ☏ host > That's the key in the end.. If you look at it that way. ☏ Kim Kuk-il > yes it is. If you pass that gate, we will start a lawsuit in court and present evidence for both sides., Please provide proof, Of course, Coupang headquarters will only issue what is advantageous to them, right?? Then, we apply for discovery and the court says, “Please check everything.” This is how the process goes. ☏ Host > This lawsuit is being filed primarily by consumers and members, but isn't it possible for shareholders or investors to file lawsuits as well? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > That’s right. In this case alone, I think an investor lawsuit is possible because reporting, reporting, and notification were delayed, and there were violations of disclosure obligations, but since Coupang member users and consumers suffered the most damage, we are trying to focus here first. ☏ Host > Then, when do you expect to file a complaint? ☏ Kim Kook-il > Since so many people have responded positively, we are discussing internally whether we should actually go a little faster than expected. Originally, I was planning to file it somehow within the year, but I'm expecting that it might happen sooner. ☏ Host > You can't just cut a radish with a knife, so you initially thought that the standard was around 1,000 people? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > Yes, that’s right. ☏ Host > But the number of people exceeded 1,000 overnight. ☏ Kook-il Kim > Yes, that’s right. ☏ Host > Then, you can file a complaint right away. ☏ Kim Kook-il > Today, while I was having a morning meeting, I was in New York, and when I was meeting with American lawyers, my first estimate was that SKT, which we are still working on, would have about 1,000 people, but it fell short of that. Nevertheless, we proceeded because we had a deadline, and in the case of Coupang, of course, we expected SKT and set it at 1,000 people, but it surpassed the number in one day, so you can see how the people are so angry about Coupang that they cannot resolve it. So, at this morning's meeting, we just said, let's just take 10,000 people. ☏ Host > Okay. Lastly, I would like to ask this question. It is about the speed of litigation. If the Korean government's investigation results are officially announced and fines are imposed on them, will the speed of litigation in the United States speed up, and what will happen? ☏ Kim Kuk-il > That’s right. Wasn't the reason we filed a civil and criminal complaint, especially a search and seizure in the criminal case? ☏ Host > That’s right. ☏ Kim Kook-il > If the process of the leak through the search and seizure, who leaked it, how this friend leaked it, what preparations were made at the company level for it, and whether the company knew about it even after it was leaked and then covered it up again, if these things come out through the investigation, wouldn't there not be a lot of information to check even if we apply for discovery? ☏ Host > That’s right. That's right. ☏ Kim Kuk-il > Rather, the reason for proceeding with both Korea and the United States is that there is an advantage in being able to use the data obtained from one side for the other side. ☏ Host > Yes, I understand. I think we should listen to today's words up to this point. There are probably many people who are watching the litigation progress. Thank you. Representative. ☏ Kook-il Kim > Yes, thank you. ☏ Host > We were with Kim Kuk-il, CEO of Daeryun Law Firm.[View full article]
[Focus] Coupang class action lawsuit, "Concealment of headquarters data is not possible... U.S. court can proceed with forced submission and restoration procedures" (Go here)